Having poor sight not only means just putting glasses..but a lot

Do you think that having a poor sight or myopia, just means that your eyesight only is low and you can correct everything by wearing glasses. I would completely disagree and so would you, if you will try to discover what is the behavioral difference between a myope and a perfect sighted person. Myopia is the property of those who have a tendency to isolate them from the rest of world. If you have poor vision, observe that if you don't pay attention to your circumstances, relate less to others, forget or don't try to remember the streets where you travelled today. Observe, the people with perfect sight , they are more relaxed, aware of the circumstances, shows less discomfort on workload.. if you will see a colored letter or object through your glasses, and compare the darkness of that with darkness through your own eyes, you will know the difference.

This all can not be fixed, by just putting glasses on your precious eyes that are not separated from your brain.
Remember, its only when the mind is relaxed, you can have perfect vision.As said by Bates, " A single thought of relaxation can cure the vision " , just develop the relaxation and make it will become permanent.

whts necessary to have a good vision

Have you ever observed that, often when you wake up from sleep, or a short nap, you are seeing things more clearly for a small duration. A fine sleep relaxes your mind and whole body.Eyes are directly related to mind's status. If you will take a relaxed sleep, so like your eyes. Try to have atleast 7 hours sleep. Or a short can be ok if it is fulfilling the body needs. Sleeping till late morning produces heat in body that affects the eyes badly. I am not sleeping well from last 2 days nd its reflecting in my eyes. I'm managing to have a short nap in my office

how i am recovering my Eyesight back to 20/20.. the complete story since 2008

Hi friends,

i have decided to post my story about how i found the classic method of Natural Eyesight improvement since i started it from my college time.

the below blogpost is a copy post of my earlier entries on the vision improvement site:

you can find this post in the forums by going to the link below:

http://www.iblindness.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1196

I will post my next blogs to update you my day to day vision improvement and techniques i use to achieve 20.20:

So here the story goes:

Author	Message
handa_yar	Post subject: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:19 am
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	hello friends, First of all, a heartly thanks to "Bates", David and you all. my name is Ajmer Handa.Here's my improvement story: I was suffeing from myopia from 8 years.At first, it was -1.5 diopters in all.It kept on increasing each year while i am wearing glasses continuously.And now , the configuraion of my spectacule is : -4.50 in right eye -4.75 in left eye....(i don't know about astigmatism ) I came to know about Bates method from a library book named"Better eyesight without Glasses" from Dr. R.S. Aggarwal. It was a mere translation of Bates method in simple words.I observed the name "BATES" in many of its pages.I was too excited and started working on it.But after a hard work of twenty days. i left this method because there were no evidence of current world. and moreover it was a publication of1960's. I tried the phone no.s but they were expired. After that i searched this on internet. i came to know about ur site.and read all posts in this site.I didn't give up the hope because i was reading each new entry into "success Stories"Section. I have never got any feeling of improvement 10 days ago.Last week, i studied david's post remembering colour and then did palming and got an instantaneous clear vision.but the strain restored.But this flash make me believe that Bates method really works. Two days later, i sat aganist the chart and started doing the central fixation with Shifting and swinging and i began to enjoy it.It was morning's 8:00 am and just then i did sunning with closed eyes. this filled my eyesb with a red colour and happines and when i opened eyes, i could see everything as clear as i have never seen from last 8 years. Eyes were so relaxed. This clear vision was 20/20 and it remained for near about half an hour. Now it's not permanent.But whenever i do some sunning and relaxation excercise, the flashes comes.And at least it also doesn't return to previous conditions. I will go to optician tomorrow for eyecheck-up. And i think that it will be cured permanently in some days. I think i hav made it long enough,and sorry for the previous posts, i had not replied.I have Lot more questions to ask . Just keep on guys, work on it, If one method doesn't work,try another. Read a success story and each time read the method before working on it...Questions,Congratulations...Welcomed.......
Top

otis	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:58 am
Member Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:36 pm Posts: 848	Dear Handa Yar, Subject: Congratulations on your Success. You are correct. Once you clear your Snellen to excellent (pass the DMV) you must continue to monitor your Snellen to make certain you always read 1.8 cm letters at 6 meters. Great success for you! Otis
Top

handa_yar	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:36 pm
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	Thanks Otis, It could not be possible without the help of you people,I think i hav improved a lot,although i am not good at remembering black..Bates says right, mind greatly controls the vision and when mind is relaxed,eyes are also relaxed.. i Have a lot of questions to ask,let me start up frm here : !.DMV means ?? 2. I want fine print and photographic type reduction, i know you know the link to this material... I hav a suggestion, In each member's profile, there should be the indication to his present vision and vision some time ago, this will really helpful to new visitor myopes... Bye for now.. Ajmer _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha
Top

otis	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:54 pm
Member Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:36 pm Posts: 848	Dear Ajmer, DMV mean "Department of Motor Vehicles". Why is that important? Because THEY set the REQUIRED visual standard for driving a car. And it is NOT 20/20. http://www.lowvisioncare.com/visionlaws.htm In fact they run from 20/60 for Georgia, 20/50, Texas and some states, to 20/40 for all the other states. (Read chart with both eyes open.) Quote: Thanks Otis, It could not be possible without the help of you people,I think i hav improved a lot,although i am not good at remembering black..Bates says right, mind greatly controls the vision and when mind is relaxed,eyes are also relaxed.. i Have a lot of questions to ask,let me start up frm here : !.DMV means ?? Otis> As per above. If you are working with Bates, it is good to know what is ACCEPTABLE. 2. I want fine print and photographic type reduction, i know you know the link to this material... Otis> If you are working on "myopia", you need to work with this Snellen: http://www.smbs.buffalo.edu/oph/ped/IVAC/IVAC.html Just click above, and then on Display. Quote: I hav a suggestion, In each member's profile, there should be the indication to his present vision and vision some time ago, this will really helpful to new visitor myopes... For a number of reasons -- this might be misleading. Currently and objectively, I have 20/20 and a positive refractive STATE of +1/2 diotper. Otis Bye for now.. Ajmer
Top

handa_yar	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:01 am
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	hii otis, it's a long time i hav posted.. i want to add that my last improvement was not static. Bates said right that if relaxation is permanent, perfect vision is permanent.Now , many times a day i get flashes of clear vision.. and they occur mostly when i wash my face with water or in the sun..I don't how much time it will take to be permanent but it has been started.. I am still not good at remembering black, although i try to remember some other colour.. I have found shfiting and swinging the easier and beneficial of all other excercises, and i think one should start from it.. Bye for now.. Ajmer Singh _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha
Top

otis	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:22 am
Member Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:36 pm Posts: 848	Dear Ajmer, I always argue that rejection of the minus -- is the second-opnion. I also argue that, if Bates 1913 study were conducted with "older" students (college), it would have a chance of success. In my opinion, Bates 1913 study was shut down by public "apathy", majority-opinion hostility, and the "public school" system did not want to "fight" the issue. Now we have a situation were, in China, 70 percent of the college students are myopic -- and nothing is done. So I am pleased you are taking preventive steps -- on your own. ============= Quote: i want to add that my last improvement was not static. Bates said right that if relaxation is permanent, perfect vision is permanent.Now , many times a day i get flashes of clear vision.. and they occur mostly when i wash my face with water or in the sun..I don't how much time it will take to be permanent but it has been started.. Otis> It is important to remember that in Bates 1913 study the kids were reading their Snellen. This served several purposes -- the "exercise" of it, the fact that the school system was "concerned", and the motivation (in the person) to succeed. Quote: I am still not good at remembering black, although i try to remember some other colour.. I have found shfiting and swinging the easier and beneficial of all other excercises, and i think one should start from it.. Otis> Let me also add a "target" -- and the is the ability to read the 20/40 line correctly ( 1/2 the letters correctly). That is the line required for driving a car, and marks good success. Enjoy, Otis Bye for now.. Ajmer Singh
Top

handa_yar	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:56 am
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	hi guys,lot time again back.. actually i have found the Bates method quite fabulous and is practicing on it.. I often get clear flashes in the sun and sometimes exercising at night... but i don't learned till now how to maintain the flashes.. it comes by chance when my mood is happy and i got relaxed... i want to be cured completely and to show my friends that there is a magical method.. please help me... _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha
Top

handa_yar	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:57 am
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	hi guys,lot time again back.. actually i have found the Bates method quite fabulous and is practicing on it.. I often get clear flashes in the sun and sometimes exercising at night... but i don't learned till now how to maintain the flashes.. it comes by chance when my mood is happy and i got relaxed... i want to be cured completely and to show my friends that there is a magical method.. please help me... >:D _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha
Top

johnwayne	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:51 am
Member Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:48 pm Posts: 87	Hi Handa_yar, I could be wrong, but ...I wouldn't worry too much about remembering black. A lot of people can't do it either. It's not crucial to your success and Bates later changed his mind on the importance of doing it as it can cause strain. It took me ages before I could do it myself and while I think it's a good technique, it's by no means crucial, I really wouldn't bother with it at this stage if I were you. Cheers, JW
Top

clarknight	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:23 am
Member Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 7:03 am Posts: 691 Location: Massachusetts	Handa Glad you have broken through to clear eyesight! Are you from India? I recieve many requests for help in vision improvement from people with names that sound similiar to yours, India nationalty. Any specific reason many people from india ask for help? I want to find the basic cause of their vision problem. Diet, computer use??
Top

Nancy	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:46 am
Member Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:01 pm Posts: 418	Handa, You said it yourself -- when your mood is happy & you are relaxed, the flashes come. The "secret" to Bates work is to let go of strain so you'll be relaxed! As far as remembering black, as Clark said, it doesn't have to be black. Just see if you can remember something pleasant, pictures of a pleasant scene, maybe. _________________ Nancy See my vision & dreams blog at http://dreamersight.wordpress.com/.
Top

handa_yar	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:21 am
Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India	I know the importance of remembering black. At the beginning days it was difficult and almost confusing to remember black. But now i often do it with ease whenever i notice color of anything interesting....and it works. i think the main reason is that i am not so patient.. i have not even palmed from months. clarknight said > Are you from India? I recieve many requests for help in vision improvement from people with names that sound similiar to yours, India nationalty. Any specific reason many people from india ask for help? I want to find the basic cause of their vision problem. Diet, computer use?? Ajmer> ya buddy, i m from india. the main cause of myopia here is the lack of awareness.people follows doctors as if they are God (hell that is the most disgusting thing ).the rest is the effort-full education pattern. The interesting thing is that those who are poor enough to eat nutrient food are too poor to buy glasses..ha ah ha and thatz why here the poor ones are free from glasses. got it.. Well, i want to start a program in my area to make an awareness. hope u will help me in this.. Bye for now .. _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha
Top

clarknight	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:51 am
Member Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 7:03 am Posts: 691 Location: Massachusetts	Thank you for the very interesting answer Handa. You can give free copies of the E-book on http://www.cleareyesight.info to people in India that need help. Write for a free copy - mclearsight@aol.com
Top

JMartinC4	Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:34 pm
Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA	Just an interesting observation, originally made by a coworker about 6 years ago: The 'head shake' common in many people from India. The coworker who made the observation asked another coworker from India whether it was true - and after thinking about it he agreed that they do perform a lot of habitual head-shaking for some reason. I'm surmising that it may have something to do with holding or attempting to hold on to clear vision? Prior to hearing this observation and dialogue, I had noticed the same thing of a clear-sighted elder coworker who was from China. I have recently gotten to the point where I am having some good success in finding and holding on to clear vision flashes/events, and in analyzing what I'm doing, it sometimes seems to boil down to a one-fifth to one-fourth of a second (one-thou-sand-[and]-one) head shake/shift or series of head shakes/shifts. From references I've read on this and the Bates Method sites, I know that Dr. Bates contended that swinging was supposed to eventually become very subtle shifting. These are the best websites I've ever found. I went 30 years thinking that I was either alone in my observations of visual improvement methods, clear vision flashes, etcetera, that were in accord only with a long-discredited Bates Method, or that I was in the company only of charlatans and weirdos. Now I know better. Although - there are some Human Factors experiments from the early 1980's done by the Univ. of Arizona in improving military pilots' vision especially in grayspace, using a simple tube apparatus for training, which David may want to add. I have one of the Human Factors journals from my semester as an Engineering Management - Artificial Intelligence/Ergonomics student at Geo. Wash. Univ., and I'll try and scan/post them for his consideration. But it's late and I'm going to bed for now. handa_yar wrote: I know the importance of remembering black. At the beginning days it was difficult and almost confusing to remember black. But now i often do it with ease whenever i notice color of anything interesting....and it works. i think the main reason is that i am not so patient.. i have not even palmed from months. clarknight said > Are you from India? I recieve many requests for help in vision improvement from people with names that sound similiar to yours, India nationalty. Any specific reason many people from india ask for help? I want to find the basic cause of their vision problem. Diet, computer use?? Ajmer> ya buddy, i m from india. the main cause of myopia here is the lack of awareness.people follows doctors as if they are God (hell that is the most disgusting thing ).the rest is the effort-full education pattern. The interesting thing is that those who are poor enough to eat nutrient food are too poor to buy glasses..ha ah ha and thatz why here the poor ones are free from glasses. got it.. Well, i want to start a program in my area to make an awareness. hope u will help me in this.. Bye for now .. _________________ BiofdbkDevice: picasaweb.google.com/JMCCAC rbs2.com/SilvNitr.pdf nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1420 lowingerpaul.com/second%20sight.html AsLightray-TwigIsBent/SoVisualSystem-TreeIsInclined HospitalBabiesDevelop1EyeWithWorseVision.Why?KnowTruth=SetFree
Top

handa_yar

Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:50 am

Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India

Hi, Martin If I am not mis understanding your talks.., then i think you have taken it otherwise. Its great that you have collected so much data and researched hard on improving eyesight. But my point was that here in India the no. of myopia patients are increasing due to following reasons: 1). Stressful and wrong study pattern 2). Blind Faith on Doctors 3). Lack of Awareness 4). Lack of Interest in this totally different method of treatment. There are some other reasons that you would know. But i have not seen hare a single Bates Teacher. and though i am near perfect vision i can't open a institute without suitable eye specialist degree. But one day it must be done.... Can you provide me any e-books other than Bates and "Use your own eyes". Others are not available here and i don't have a credit card.. Please reply.. Ajmer Hana _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha Author Message JMartinC4 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:20 am Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA Ajmer, I am not a Bates Teacher, and I have only read the original Dr. Bates' book, and that of his coworker Mary Corbett, so I'm not qualified to provide much assistance. If you search this community forum and the iblindness.org website you will find what you're looking for. Good luck! JMartin handa_yar wrote: Hi, Martin If I am not mis understanding your talks.., then i think you have taken it otherwise. Its great that you have collected so much data and researched hard on improving eyesight. But my point was that here in India the no. of myopia patients are increasing due to following reasons: 1). Stressful and wrong study pattern 2). Blind Faith on Doctors 3). Lack of Awareness 4). Lack of Interest in this totally different method of treatment. There are some other reasons that you would know. But i have not seen hare a single Bates Teacher. and though i am near perfect vision i can't open a institute without suitable eye specialist degree. But one day it must be done.... Can you provide me any e-books other than Bates and "Use your own eyes". Others are not available here and i don't have a credit card.. Please reply.. Ajmer Hana _________________ BiofdbkDevice: picasaweb.google.com/JMCCAC rbs2.com/SilvNitr.pdf nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1420 lowingerpaul.com/second%20sight.html AsLightray-TwigIsBent/SoVisualSystem-TreeIsInclined HospitalBabiesDevelop1EyeWithWorseVision.Why?KnowTruth=SetFree Top Sarah72 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:32 am Member Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:40 am Posts: 5 Congratulation Darling, I wish the same to everybody _________________ Don't Let Your Vision Problems Stop You From Living A Carefree Life. http://2improveeyesight.info Top johnwayne Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:42 am Member Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:48 pm Posts: 87 http://2improveeyesight.info/ Do they throw in steak knives as well? Cheers, JW Top otis Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:58 pm Member Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:36 pm Posts: 848 Dear Hana, Subject: Starting a "cure" process and organization in India. I know we all want to say, "I have a 'cure"". That sells. That gets "attention". But it also gets you a lawsuit -- if you make that claim. I have friends who attempted to "sell" a "cure". Use of these words is considered PROOF that you are practicing medicine with no license. Here is a discussion about this "legal problem" for your protection -- and anyone else who is thinking of "going into business" to help people with prevention (Bates or Prentice). In this case it is the sale of "Herbs" -- but the the issue is still the same. Be very careful if you clame "cure" -- even if you cure yourself. http://myopiafree.i-see.org/herbal.htm I simply don't use the word "cure". I say prevent, avoid, get out of a negative STATUS. I do this to be honest about what "I" measure. Not to be "coy" or anything like that. The best idea is to be a fully informed as possible about this preventive alternative -- which is the goal if "I-blindness", and other similar sites. I do suggest reading Alex Eulenberg's library. It is open and FREE to all of us. Prevention best, Otis Top johnwayne Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:58 am Member Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:48 pm Posts: 87 Handa_yar, What's your progress so far? Did you get the help you were after? Cheers, JW Top handa_yar Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:22 pm Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India ya buddies, i was looking for some more materail to read about eyesight improvement... I wanna know also how to chat with the registered members... Though my sight now is much better these days.. i m still uncomfortable at using computer without glasses... Ajmer Handa _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha Top Mizu Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:15 pm Member Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:21 pm Posts: 13 CONGRATS!!! yeah, so frustrating.. how do we stabalize relaxation? Top spydermann Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:03 pm Member Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:05 pm Posts: 65 Location: Land of Strong Hearts, Weak minds. you guys are amazing man, so much information to research just in this single thread!! Yes how do we find and maintain relaxation??! You can only deep breathe, eat right, hot tub, and get massages so much... I think the final re-lax is gained once each individual can see and understand that life is safe to trust... It seems like we all have fears and stresses we've been carrying around since our eyes first blurred, i bet we can find clarity once we can look that obstacle/fear in the eye, acknowledge and understand it, then let it be released. And then hello new found Relaxation! I was just noticing these past few nights how tense I am as I lay in bed, muscles clenched and my eyes squinted squeezed shut. Thankfully i'm becoming aware, hopefully I can find a way to help it ease up _________________ "The cause of any error I of refraction, of a squint, or of any other functional disturbance of the eye, is simply a thought - a wrong thought - and the cure is as quick as the thought that relaxes." Top handa_yar Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:00 pm Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India yeah, u r right spiddy. One morning, i observed that i am too relaxed that i can notice the details of color of bucket in my bathroom. I learned that its the comfort of sleep that made me feel relaxed at morning.From that day i begun to observe my nights. The next night, i woke up from a horrory dream and saw that i was breathless and muscles were squinzed, tight. It means its not only the bed and the sleeping poses that makes the difference. But within it there are our thoughts and fears that makes us to strain while sleeping and also at different time of days. A myope has its own attitude and the way of thinking that strains the mind >:( and reflects in the vision. I am simply trying to be aware that we should be aware of our thought process that produces the strain. That's how BATES said "The perfect eyesight can be retrieved in seconds with a thought of relaxation" Regards, Ajmer Handa _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha Top spydermann Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:10 am Member Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:05 pm Posts: 65 Location: Land of Strong Hearts, Weak minds. handa_yar wrote: "The perfect eyesight can be retrieved in seconds with a thought of relaxation" Have you guys had any insights during your clear flashes? Any old negative thoughts cured? handa a clear flash like yours is what i strive for _________________ "The cause of any error I of refraction, of a squint, or of any other functional disturbance of the eye, is simply a thought - a wrong thought - and the cure is as quick as the thought that relaxes." Top JMartinC4 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:18 pm Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA Here is one: Suppose all human (or even animate) consciousness is connected or connectable? Suppose that 'whenever any two of us are gathered in his name" incredible things can happen - suppose things like 'table top cold fusion' are possible, but only if two people are connected properly? spydermann wrote: handa_yar wrote: "The perfect eyesight can be retrieved in seconds with a thought of relaxation" Have you guys had any insights during your clear flashes? Any old negative thoughts cured? handa a clear flash like yours is what i strive for _________________ BiofdbkDevice: picasaweb.google.com/JMCCAC rbs2.com/SilvNitr.pdf nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1420 lowingerpaul.com/second%20sight.html AsLightray-TwigIsBent/SoVisualSystem-TreeIsInclined HospitalBabiesDevelop1EyeWithWorseVision.Why?KnowTruth=SetFree Top spydermann Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:11 pm Member Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:05 pm Posts: 65 Location: Land of Strong Hearts, Weak minds. table top fusion? basically two people with a strong intent and focus can bring about amazing things?...elucidation. _________________ "The cause of any error I of refraction, of a squint, or of any other functional disturbance of the eye, is simply a thought - a wrong thought - and the cure is as quick as the thought that relaxes." Top JMartinC4 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:49 am Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA Just fanciful conjecture, of course. But those two scientists who claimed to have created/observed tabletop cold fusion really thought they had done it. They were real scientists, not laymen goofing around. But other scientists couldn't duplicate their success. Maybe the entire experiment had to be set up exactly the same - everything pointed in the same direction, same lighting, same reflective surfaces, lab apparatus and scientists in the exact same positions, maybe even timing exactly the same, otherwise the observations are incorrect - paralax error or something... For instance, most people, maybe more than most, would find it impossible to duplicate a clear vision flash or event unless they were properly 'schooled' in how to do it. They would say we were 'fooling' ourselves. Just as the world of science said that Drs. Pons and Fleishmann were 'fooling' themselves about tabletop cold fusion.... spydermann wrote: table top fusion? basically two people with a strong intent and focus can bring about amazing things?...elucidation. _________________ BiofdbkDevice: picasaweb.google.com/JMCCAC rbs2.com/SilvNitr.pdf nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1420 lowingerpaul.com/second%20sight.html AsLightray-TwigIsBent/SoVisualSystem-TreeIsInclined HospitalBabiesDevelop1EyeWithWorseVision.Why?KnowTruth=SetFree Top spydermann Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:04 pm Member Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:05 pm Posts: 65 Location: Land of Strong Hearts, Weak minds. [ JMartinC4 wrote: 'whenever any two of us are gathered in his name" incredible things can happen - suppose things like 'table top cold fusion' are possible, but only if two people are connected properly? So how does that relate back to vision restoration? Being in the right place at the right time? _________________ "The cause of any error I of refraction, of a squint, or of any other functional disturbance of the eye, is simply a thought - a wrong thought - and the cure is as quick as the thought that relaxes." Top JMartinC4 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:33 pm Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA I was responding to your call for 'insights' during clear vision flashes. spydermann wrote: [ JMartinC4 wrote: 'whenever any two of us are gathered in his name" incredible things can happen - suppose things like 'table top cold fusion' are possible, but only if two people are connected properly? So how does that relate back to vision restoration? Being in the right place at the right time? Author Message spydermann Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:04 pm Member Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:05 pm Posts: 65 Location: Land of Strong Hearts, Weak minds. handa any insights into becoming aware of your strain-producing though processes? _________________ "The cause of any error I of refraction, of a squint, or of any other functional disturbance of the eye, is simply a thought - a wrong thought - and the cure is as quick as the thought that relaxes." Top hammer Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:59 am Member Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:39 pm Posts: 181 15 minutes, ok I found this one from Bates: ...Some very dramatic cures have been effected by means of the imagination. One patient, a physician, who had worn glasses for forty years and who could not without them see the big C at twenty feet, was cured in fifteen minutes simply by imagining that he saw the letters black. When asked to describe the big C with unaided vision he said it looked grey to him, and that the opening was obscured by a grey cloud to such an extent that he had to guess that it had an opening. He was told that the letter was black, perfectly black, and that the opening was perfectly white, with no grey cloud; and the card was brought close to him so that he could see that this was so. When he again regarded the letter at the distance, he remembered its blackness so vividly that he was able to imagine that he saw it just as black as he had seen it at the near-point, with the opening perfectly white; and therefore he saw the letter on the card perfectly black and distinct... Top Ares Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:09 am Member Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 195 Location: Athens, Hellas Well, if we have a crappy Vision, a crappy Imagination and a crappy Memory, if Memory becomes perfect, Imagination and Memory will follow. By perfect i need as must "sharpness" you need to see 20/20. Any one who has palm in the past can confirm this fact. _________________ Top hammer Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:20 pm Member Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:39 pm Posts: 181 Ares wrote: Well, if we have a crappy Vision, a crappy Imagination and a crappy Memory, if Memory becomes perfect, Imagination and Memory will follow. By perfect i need as must "sharpness" you need to see 20/20. Any one who has palm in the past can confirm this fact. Oh, that is true Ares. It doesn't matter how much you try to imagine if the memory is poor. Now, the best thing to improve memory is actually to relax/sleep. Everyone that has had a black out and forgot names, numbers, codes and so on knows that the memory comes back again if you just sleep and relax. So imagine especially in the morning. Thanx for pointing this out Ares. Top JMartinC4 Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:18 pm Member Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 497 Location: DC USA Follow my way and at the very least you will have clear vision when you reach your 50's. And you will reach your 50's. _________________ BiofdbkDevice: picasaweb.google.com/JMCCAC rbs2.com/SilvNitr.pdf nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1420 lowingerpaul.com/second%20sight.html AsLightray-TwigIsBent/SoVisualSystem-TreeIsInclined HospitalBabiesDevelop1EyeWithWorseVision.Why?KnowTruth=SetFree Top ToSeeAgain Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:26 pm Member Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:34 am Posts: 5 It's always comforting to know that there ARE people out there who have experienced an immense amount of success concerning this program. Many skeptics can speak out against it, but you can't really judge it until you've tried it. Honestly, this is why I haven't provided a stern opinion on this practice. I really won't know how I'll react until I try the exercises and see the results. Also, I'm taking into consideration that everyone's bodies are different. Some people will be effected and some people won't. Some people are effected by medication and some aren't! _________________ Irene A Medical Alarm would certainly help right now. Top handa_yar Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:45 am Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India Hi all, I am back after a long time.. I want to tell some updates about my vision. Though these are showing my unluck and laziness. Off course, i got a clear flash after learning about Bates Method in a month and practicing for just 15 minutes. The reason was that i was very excited at that time to know such a unique method to improve eyesight and tried my best follow guidelines properly.. and it was a luck that i got that sensational pleasant feeling. That first flash became my inspiration and gave me support to withstand among the eyedoctors who said i should get a laser surgery. But after my college days, i joined alarm monitoring job in a reputed mnc. My schedul became so busy, i had to work there for 10 hours, less time to sleep, not proper timing to eat.. away from home.. and all this snatched from me my habits of morning Yoga and Bates practice. I don't remember i had even palmed for 20 minutes from last year.... The result that my vision again deteriorated. But whenever i got time, i practiced swinging, sunning and now i can produce a clear flash if i had slept well, and is out in sun after about 10- 20 minutes of practice. Though all depends on how relax you are while practicing any method and how pleasant you fell after trying that method. Though i had got clear flashes sometime when i had walked long and after martial arts practice which make me tired... I think it comes when you don't pay attention to your eyes. Since according to Bates, When we pay attention to our eyes.. we try to see. I have practiced today properly after a long time and have got many clear flashes.And will continue from today. However, i have found that beside not giving time, the main hurdles in not getting cured till now are" 1). I have a habit of working in a hurry and fast. means i feel think fast, frnds says i walk fast, even i work on four to five things simultaneously on computer screen with various windows.. this makes me breath fast.. and therefore causes strain.. Bates says in this concern as [i]" Strain may sometimes lead to a production of errors of refraction., but its foundation lies in wrong habits of thought." [\i] I think the same is happening with me because 2) I have examined my thought process. And found that it doesn't support my journey to cure vision. The thoughts are usually producing tension and worry.. Means i have to change my way of thinking . 3). My imagination is very poor.. I remember when i was not myopic. i usually dream of flying in the sky with my open eyes and those dream i saw in sleeps. I day dream of flying with angels and on a sofa type thing upon forests, lakes and with my loved ones.. It’s a teasing tale how my eyes lost my imagination and got crapped in this pair of glasses and now I have understood it. I am improving it, please refer me any excercies to improve imagination. For those, who are new to this method and concerning whether they will be able to get a natural vision… I want to say that [i] “ I belong to a small town of North India where no one knows bates method. I tried various methods of curing vision before it be it walking on green grass in morning, tratak ( the ancient Indian method of looking at candles without blinking eyes), medicines, taking herbal cure, homeopathic.. But then I found Ramdev- a yog guru in India now widely famous.. he claims to cure several diseases including eyesight by Pranayams – breath excercises. Yes, it works very well, but i was not able to continue due to my timings. Yet it have cured a thousands of people in India and helps in curing eyesight. Its good if you try Anulom-Vilom Prnayam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOtOJLO2GE with Bates Method. Then I found Bates Method, I found a 1957 book written about Bates by an Indian writer in a library.. Then I read it.. and followed those half swollen methods. But it was half and was in not a condition to read. Then I came to Chandigarh and found the only book from Bates from only one Book Store and it contain a chart and then I found this site and found people w[\i]ho supported me.. However I told this method laughed at me and told me that how one can be cured reading Alphabets A B C.. But now I have full confidence and will reach that state where I can say.. [b]“ Yes, I have done it… I have found the light after a long time of darkness… ”[\b] Thanks to you All. One more thing, I want to write my blog based on this.. can anyone tell me how to collect my own posts to make it a blog. Any suggestion.. _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha Top Nancy Post subject: Re: improved in 15 minutes..a miracle in my life.. Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:17 am Member Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:01 pm Posts: 418 Good for you for climbing back on the wagon -- many of us who have been doing this for a long time know well the cycle of discouragement and renewed commitment. See the Wordpress site to create a blog, and there are several others like Blogspot or Zooloo. Once you've got it started, you can cut and paste your posts from here to the blog. _________________ Nancy See my vision & dreams blog at http://dreamersight.wordpress.com/. Top handa_yar Post subject: I have found the cause of delay in getting cured Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:19 pm Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India Hi all, Thanks for sharing your admiring ideas. I have found that the main cause of so much delay in my progress is the lack of imagination. I now feel that i lost eyesight because i lost my imagination in 7th standard. That was because i got a totally unfriendly environment over there. That crappy education system ruined both my imagination and eyesight. I had always avoided practicing imagination. Now, i got surprised how much i used to imagine in my childhood. Those memories really inspire me. I even used to have lucid dreams that time. Now, i have observed that whenever i try imagination, though not giving enough time and interest, it really worked for me. Now i am trying this method. Here's my technique. I want to see blue waves of sea, surfing playing with them. I had found techniques like the above in the Md Cracken's book" Use your own eyes ". Any videos would also be helpful. Do you guys have any other free ebooks, you can offer me. This would be a great help in my journey if some expert answers my queries. _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha Top handa_yar Post subject: And now i am getting flashes for long time,and lasting relax Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:09 am Member Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am Posts: 32 Location: New Delhi, India Hi all, Hope you all are walking along with me to the destination that is sure to achieve. I know i usually post after 4-5 months, but still i daily open the website and study the homepage quote ,new threads on excercise and success stories. I was thinking from last 10 days to post for my improvement and some questions, since i have understood lot about how to use my eyes properly, what to benchmark for eye behavior, controlling, relaxing mind and overcoming my fears, shallow breathing that interfers into my visual system and make me to see in a incorrect way. But this friday, i found something that filled me with a deep joy and a feeling of rewardness. Ok, not making it too long, i start. I was sitting in a park in the friday morning. After some body-bimuilding excercise, i sat in an Asann for Pranayams ( breath excercises and Indian meditation ) ,simultaneously caring for the Bates concepts of blinking and central fixation (will explain my mental state and whole process in next post). When i sat for almost 30 minutes, excluding thoughts and emotions by meditating on long breaths and listening to chirping of birds, i opened my eyes after half an hour, and it was much relaxation on my face and eyes. Something was put off from my head and mind. Blink was light and breath was slow and long . I could figure out the details of the flowers and plants in my frontside of park. I could see the red , yellow flowers and the green leaves. I could also see the buildings that were behind the park. Initially, the flowers were double imaged but rising sunlight was falling on them and it became clear. I thought to look by my side and more long but then i feared that by so i wil lost this clear vision. I was surprised to see the faces and eye movements of children's and people rounding in the park. I was surprised that i am not losing this clear flash like all other uncountable (also uncounted) flashes i was getting from last year. I gave suggestion to myself " Relax, these are ur eyes !, these were made to perform like this. These were like this only relaxed and light in childhood, its the beginning" and a lot i said to myself about this figuring the flowers and admiring their beauty. I thought i should continue breathing long and should shift my attention towards details and swinging of flower's parts and the eyes of children playing there. I observed world was never so beautiful and interesting before. i was still observing birds sounds and the touch of cool, fresh wind blowing & touching my body. I showed interest in the beautiful pattern over buildings that were nearly 40 feet away from me . i could blink softly wothout losing. and most importantly i was focusing in present. This lasted for about 20 minutes and it made a belief in my heart that " That day is near, when i will throw those damn glasses ( that i use very less - only in office ) and my friends kwill surprise and i will say crushing them with my feet- ' Enough, don't try to pick them, i don't need them anymore because i am also having a pair of eyes and i know how to use them ' ... " .... will continue about my present eye situation in next post and i really need to know somethings.... I am very thankful to that moment i opened a half centuary old book ( that was in its ashes )about Bates in a library and finally got that Bates book and came to this website. Ajmer ;p :p ;p _________________ “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” -Buddha